We have many nicknames for your boss, Chains. Cavolo, i senzatetto di questa città hanno davvero dei bei soprannomi. Oh, and just for the heck of it, let’s go ahead and throw in our family, SOPRANNOME: Cenighi (not in records, but via verbal info from Serafini cousins). I made this video for my grandsons Percy and Hadrian on 31 Oct 2019, in honour of what would have been the 100th birthday of my late father, Romeo Fedele Serafini (known as Ralph Serafinn in the US). After analysing hundreds of thousands of Italian parish records from at least five different provinces, I can conclude: There is NO consistently used system for recording soprannomi. CLOZ in Val di Non: History, Parish Records, Local Surnames, Decanato of Trento: Parishes, Curates and Parish Registers, Trento in the 1800s. In this video, you will see aerial views of the River Adige, the medieval church of S. Apollinare, Castello del Buonconsiglio, Trento cemetery, the Duomo (Cathedral) of San Vigilio, and a panorama of the alpine city of Trento and the surrounding Dolomites. SIDE NOTE: Interestingly, Moorish themes and motifs were very popular in Trentino, and indeed throughout Italy between the 17th and 19th centuries. Although sites like Ancestry and programmes like Family Tree Maker don’t have a ‘soprannome’ in their default settings, it is possible to create a ‘custom fact’ (in Family Tree Maker) or ‘custom event’ (in Ancestry) and label it ‘soprannome’. Soprannomi ** Local Business . What are the chances of there being more than one such couple? Log In Genealogist Lynn Serafinn explains the role of the soprannome in Trentino and other parts of Italy and shows how to recognise them in genealogical records. 4. ‘dto’ for detto, or ‘dti’ for dicti. This project is part of their online strategy for their startup nullun, and besides Pacho , as Francisco is known, others are also lending a hand to make this adventure happen. I researched what I could and as you pointed out there were many family members in the same town. One of us! Hi Victor, Crea buoni nomi per giochi, profili, marchi o social network. For example, if a soprannome is in Giovanni’s baptismal record, put down ‘as per Giovanni’s baptismal record’ or something to that effect. When using Family Tree Maker, it gives you the additional advantage of being able to create filtered lists or custom reports for specific soprannomi (which can be really informative). I’m not sure ‘Tradenta’ would derive from trident (tridentum), as the ‘tra’ and ‘tri’ make them completely different words. Get to Know Your Ancestral ‘Neighbours’ Wait until I get around to writing your research summary. In both cases, the soprannome is indicated by the word dicti in its abbreviated from. Here's a short video I made where I show the town, the Serafini ancestral house (modernised) and a rare walk-through of an old-style mountain house that is very much the way it was 100 years ago (well...maybe a little messier!). By using this site you agree to the following Terms of Use. Sometimes I put soprannomi in ALL CAPS as a middle name just before the surname. You need to get 100% to score the 5 points available. Thanks so much for the input, Joe! She is described here as ‘Maria, widow of the late Vittorio Seraphin (Serafin or Serafini) Salvaterra’. I would guess it means Spirit, or even Spurt, however it could be something completely different. Surname Spotlight: BETTA. Like the ‘Bondi’ family, this ‘Tacchel/Tachelli’ family were kind of floating in space on my tree for the longest time because I just couldn’t figure out who they were. As I mentioned in the article, soprannomi can change within a single generation, which is how siblings can sometimes have different soprannomi. Occasionally, you will see a soprannome that is derived from the name of a female ancestor, especially if the name is not so common. The “soprannome” of my paternal side is “Donnetti”, they are from Cimone, a small hamlet near Trento. too many Giovannis are the sons of too many Antonios, etc.). And if you’re working specifically on Trentino family history, you might also hear or read the word ‘scutum’, which is the Trentino dialect word for soprannome. P.S. But the answer was staring me right in the face (you can probably already guess it, as I’ve already shown you the document with the answer). Some examples I’ve personally encountered include: Now, while I cannot say categorically this is true across the board, my ‘educated guess’ is that most of these surname-derived soprannomi are the surnames of a matriarch in the ancestral line. Founded by genealogist Lynn Serafinn, this is a special community for people who are researching their Trentino family history, to enable us to connect and collaborate. Some priests don’t bother to use an indicator such as detto, etc. But the combination of Benedetto AND Lucia in Cavaione in the 1580s? Tune in to find out what these surnames are, and whether you might already know some distant cousins. In this 17-minute video tutorial, I will show you how to export a list from the website, how to convert the raw data into columns, and how to organise it so you can start to create a customised database for your own genealogical research. We use cookies. Invia i tuoi soprannomi divertenti e fantastici gamertag e copia il meglio dall'elenco. P.S. Regarding Fonzaso, that is in the diocese of Belluno. It was during that visit that we were told that “Tondi” was the name they went by in Riva. Thus, in early records (and sometime even after surnames were already in use), you will see things like ‘Sebastiano of Sesto’, or ‘Nicolo’ son of Sebastiano of Sesto’. Abbiamo tanti soprannomi per il tuo capo, Chains. Some soprannomi are actually other SURNAMES. Thank you so much. The answer is: none. Conceria Stefania, lavorazione e produzione di pelle di capretto, agnello e vitello; pelle scamosciata, laminata, verniciata, bottalata, stampata e fantasie So you can see the majestic and breathtaking setting of incredible place, I've made this compilation of short video clips I took driving up from Riva on Lake Garda to Bono in Bleggio Superiore, and my meeting with my 2nd cousin Betty for the first time. However, for the longest time I couldn’t figure out who this Bondi family were or how they connected to the rest of the tree. Regardless of which method you choose or devise to record your family’s soprannomi, there is one ‘unbreakable rule’ I strongly advise you include in your research practice: After the soprannome, make a note of where you found it – preferably the earliest record. RIDDLE: What centuries-old mystical legends are still told about the discovery of a 'miraculous cross' on top of a mountain? This has the advantage of making things visible for me to find them quickly in the index when using a programme like Family Tree Maker or searching for that person on Ancestry. I recently received the marriage certificate of my paternal grandparents, married in Capizzi. My Trentina grandmother’s mother was from Badia Calavena near Verona, and that is a Cimbri community. Hope you enjoy it. PART 2: What can we learn by looking the TOP occupations in the province of Trento in the 1800s? : As I’ve had so many other projects lately, I have still not finished the edits for the PDF eBook on DNA tests, which I will be offering for FREE to my blog subscribers. Unless you are aware of these shifts from soprannome to surname, it can seem like your ancestral family has vanished into dust when you are trying to trace them backwards. A brief view of the panorama around the farm B&B Maso Pra Cavai in Bleggio, Trentino. Please trust me on this point. Can an illegitimate child ever become 'legitimate'? There are exceptions, of course. In this video you will see the sacred wooden shepherd's cross after which the parish was named, which was discovered on top on nearby Monte San Martino around 1600, and brought to the church in 1624, as well as the 1,000 year old subterranean chapel with 800 year old frescoes of angels on Romanesque pillars. 488 people like this. It’s a complex topic – in many ways more complex that surnames. But I’m going to start adding the dates now. Well, you'll just have to tune in to find out. Facebook is showing information to help you better understand the purpose of a Page. Boy, the homeless people in this town have great nicknames. This is an example of a patriarchal soprannome differentiating to reflect an attribute of either a branch of the family or an individual. Sooner or later, anyone working with Italian genealogy will encounter something called a ‘soprannome’ (plural: soprannomi). Called 'a noble community' by author Alberto Mosca, many of its families are well documented back to the medieval era. Rather, as Aldo Bertoluzza theorises in Guida ai Cognomi del Trentino, it might have been used as a nickname for a man (again, perhaps in an affectionate way) who was said to have the demeanour or ‘presence’ of a pope. Soprannomi. Long before the age of mass immigration in the 19th century, certain families migrated to many different places within the province. 5. Great article Lynn. Crea buoni nomi per giochi, profili, marchi o social network. My father ones said to me that he had ‘heard’ he had a ‘German grandmother’ somewhere, but I don’t think he realised it was his mother’s mother. This helps you remember that the soprannome MIGHT have started with that generation, and not earlier. Stay on top of our latest genealogy news and tips. It''s just a little introduction to the region. SIDE NOTE: The surname for the ‘Ballina’ family here eventually become ‘Fusari’. Total Points. While it’s tempting to translate ‘tradenta’ as something like ‘between the teeth’, I think it also sounds like it is related to the verb ‘tradire’, meaning ‘betrayed’. You’ll see the ride up and down Monte Bondone from inside the cable car, and a few scenes of the village of Sardagna at the top of the mountain. Trentino Genealogy | Family History for Trentini Decendants, http://facebook.com/groups/TrentinoGenealogy, https://trentinogenealogy.com/2019/05/dna-ethnicity-report-estimate/, CALDES in Val di Sole. Join our Trentino Genealogy Group on Facebook: http://facebook.com/groups/TrentinoGenealogy, Lynn on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LynnSerafinn, View my Santa Croce del Bleggio Family Tree on Ancestry: Community See All. It is understood from this context that the surname is Failoni, and the soprannome is Battaia – at least we HOPE that is what he means. Actions. It was certainly one of those occupations that was deemed important enough to mention in s record. Il progetto fa parte della lancio online della startupnullun e, oltre a Pacho, soprannome con cui è noto Francisco, altri stanno dando una mano [sp] per rendere possibile quest'avventura. In this 23-minute video, I document our day in Favrio – called 'Freri' in local dialect – sharing the discoveries we made. Your email address will not be published. Perhaps one folder was called ‘Business Letters’, and another ‘My Research’, etc. Sal Romano of the ‘Trentino Heritage’ blog told me that one of the soprannome for his Iob family was ‘Sicher’, which he theorises may have come from the personal name of a man named Sichero (Sicherius in Latin) in the 1670s. I think I can do it easily as I’ve the habit of naming the files/photos (baptism, marriage, etc) with both, so a quick search on the mac should do it. It really helps everyone see just what a quagmire soprannomi can be! You will also see the 1,000 year old square baptismal font in which all the babies of the parish were baptised for hundreds of years, and remnants of the even more ancient Longobard church dating from around 700 A.D. Elimina filtro. Per i giocatori leggendari, i soprannomi durano per sempre. And, although I have NOT seen this mentioned in any of my research resources, I would assume that soprannomi might also have been considered useful (if not necessary) tools in helping ensure close bloodlines didn’t intermarry. But from the name itself, it would appear to derive from Trident. Soprannomi, bei caratteri, simboli e tag relativi a Stefania – Stef, Steffy, Fanny, Ste, ღStefaniaღ, Stefa. In some cases, YES! use in the name field for people in your tree are: I’ve seen these on so many trees on Ancestry, I’ve lost count. something I am again only just starting to integrate into my own trees. In this video, I describe what life was like in Romeo’s home village, and the trials of crossing the ocean to a strange, new land. Tune in to learn about the history of this ancient castle in the parish of Bleggio, and to hear the famous local legend of the 'villainous' Count D'Arco and the 'hero' named Painelli from the village of Duvredo. Hope that helps! https://trentinogenealogy.com/my-tree/. I thought that was pretty impressive, considering AncestryDNA is still calling me (and most Trentini I know) ‘French’ (!!). Much like Italian surnames, many (but not all) soprannomi may be derived from: Some examples soprannomi I’ve encountered which mostly likely came from patriarchal personal names include: Stefani (from Stefano), Battianel (from Giovanni Battista), Vigiolot (from Vigilio), Gianon (from Giovanni), Tondon (probably from Antonio), and many others too numerous to count. Also, if you wanted (and if you knew enough information), you could write some notes about the historical origins of the soprannome in the notes for that fact in Family Tree Marker…. You'll learn a local legend about the plague of 1630, see breath-taking views of La Chiesa the San Faustino, Monte Irone and Monte San Martino, discover the 'sorgente' (or source) of the mountain spring that gives life to this ancient village, learn about the practice of 'filò' and visit fascinating mountain houses – with their tiny wooden doors and rounded stone archways – built in 1571. In 1922, she left her ancestral home, along with her 3 children (including my father), sister and brother, to join her husband Luigi Serafini (my grandfather from Duvredo, a nearby village in the same parish of Santa Croce) who had started a new life for them in the United States. Later, if you find an earlier record, change the notation to reflect that. My grandmother Maria Onorati was born in Bono, Trentino, Italy in 1894. Besides, when we are talking about Italian women, many, if not most, retain their maiden names throughout life. Defend -> Zers/Zerz Add to New Playlist. RIDDLE 2: What are some of the legends told about the plague of 1630? 3. La creatività tradotta in varie forme:stoffa, nastri, fiori, legno e tanto altro! My friend and client Gene Pancheri, author of Pancheri: Our Story, told me that one of the Pancheri soprannomi is ‘Rumeri’, which means ‘a person from the village of Rumo’. Don’t Ignore Records that Don’t HAVE Surnames! But what's the story of the plague that hit Trentino in 1630? Which families will I discuss? I hope it strikes a chord with you. So, let’s have a look at what a MESS all these variables can create. Thus, cognome means ‘with the name’, implying it is a kind of partner to the name. Not only is this only horribly confusing to as to what her name actually IS, but all those quotation marks and brackets can cause errors in software programmes. Now consider this record of a double marriage in 1583, in which two siblings married two other siblings: Now, I know many of you will find this challenging to read, so let me just identify the key people: In this record, the priest (don Alberto Farina) has apparently recorded the surnames for the couples, without and mention of soprannome. Tune in to learn about the history of this devastating episode in the history of Trentino, Lombardia and Veneto, and to hear some of fascinating legends about life during the plague. Hey there Tobia. I’ve done extensive research on my Segna line (as have others), and I had noticed that many records included “muratore”, bricklayer, after the surname, and I always assumed they were recording the father’s occupation. Hi Robin! How History Affects the Surviving Records See more of Soprannomi on Facebook. So, what is the ‘best’ way of doing this? Thanks for reading, and for your interesting comment, Cheryl. And sometimes, but less frequently, these adaptations may result in a more radical change, where a soprannome will replace the surname altogether. Danelon -> Casoner Soprannome – Stefania. Both Papa and Papi are surnames in other parts of the province, but the soprannome MIGHT have no connection with these. My next trip to Trento is coming up in November 2019. Kissing Cousins: Marital Dispensations, Consanguinity, Affinity, P.S. Here are some notes I’ve entered about the Cenighi soprannome: The soprannome ‘Cenighi’ originates with Margherita Giuliani, who married Alberto Serafini in 1803, as she came from the frazione of Ceniga in the parish of Drò (near Arco). And, everyone would know of what family we were inquiring about. Despite the fact that EVERY family of Italian origin has a soprannome, many people researching their Trentino (or other Italian) ancestry either don’t know anything about them or fail to recognise them when they see them. This is because women tended to move to the village/parish of their husbands (unless the woman was wealthy or had inherited property from her father). Redigonda -> Casonut But SOME Trentino families really 'got around'! If you are descended from people of this region, I guarantee they would have been here! I’ll use my father’s eldest sister as an example (both she and my dad are deceased): Using the ‘quotation mark’ and ‘parentheses’ methods, and inserting her married surnames, my poor aunt’s name might end up looking like this: Pierina Luigia “Gina” (Jean Serafinn) “Jeannie” Serafini “Cenighi” Graiff Watson. Join our Trentino Genealogy Group on Facebook: Your email address will not be published. Examples are used only to help you translate the word or expression searched in various contexts. He traced the origins of that soprannome to one of the female ancestors (who married a Pancheri of Romallo) who had come from Rumo. Unlock. TIP: Whichever method you choose, BE CONSISTENT. Forgot account? She was known as Jean Serafinn in America. On your other query, I would guess that muratore refers to the occupation, not a soprannome. Just as your system for naming files was less complex when you started out using your computer, naming people was also less complex in the past, when the population was smaller, and most people were living in small, rural … But I digress…. As my tree is pretty large, I ran a few filters in my Family Tree Maker programme to find a ‘Benedetto’ living in Cavaione in this era and found Benedetto Reversi and Lucia Ballina, whose marriage I had already entered into the tree. It his book Guida ai Cognomi del Trentino, Aldo Bertoluzza stressed that the surnames/soprannomi derived from this word were most likely used to describe someone with black hair or very dark complexion, NOT someone who had Moorish background. 3 Personen sprechen darüber. Bearing that in mind, there was something about the Etro family that MIGHT explain this curious soprannome: THEY WERE CHARCOAL MAKERS (carbonai). This was a very interesting and detailed article. I feel like one of my Sicilian friends here in Britain mentioned them, but I will have to ask again. The prefix ‘tri’ always means ‘three’ (as in ‘trident’). For example, consider this baptismal record from 1705: Here we see the name of the baptised child is Antonio, and his father is referred to as ‘Giovanni, son of Francesco Buschetti, called (dicti) Caserini. Will have to work on finding Endrizzi/Facini sopranomi! Stefania: Stefanie: Steffi: Stella: Stephana: Stephanie: Stillfriede: Stina: Su: Suleika: Sultana: Susanne: Suse: Susi: Svane: Svea: Svenja: Swana: Swanhild: Swantje: Swetlana: Swidgard: Swinde: Tabea: Tabitha: Taiga: Tale: Talesia: Talida: Talika: Tamara: Tamina: Tanja: Tatjana: Teida: Tela: Telsa: Terzia: Tetje: Teudelinde: Thea: Theda: Thekla: Theoda: Theodelinde: Theodora: Theodosia: … Company. In simple terms, we can say that creating a structure is fundamental to being able to identify things and to distinguish one thing from another. Tune in to find out the answers to these questions and how these issues affected our ancestors’ lives. See actions taken by the people who manage and post content. Boy, the homeless people in this town have great nicknames. I soprannomi dati loro dai discepoli erano benevoli appellativi di mediocrità. ….and so on. I have seen this system used most frequently in 19th century records. The origins of the others are only hypothetical until research proves (or disproves) the theory. I didn’t know until now that this extra name was called a soprannome. A perfect example is this same document, in the name of the godmother. Elimina filtro. 1,947 people follow this. Slambrot!! You might not even have given it a title, just calling it something like ‘Document 1.’. Now, remember we are talking about tiny hamlets, especially back in 1588. We’ll also look at some of the common historic surnames associated with each place of these places, and tips for your genealogy research. However, in this particular case, the family’s soprannome is actually Chiesa (which means ‘church’ in English), as the priest has used the Latin word for church (Ecclesia).